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October 15

Emma Eckstein

Jeffrey Masson in his assault on Freud's abandonment of the seduction theory makes much of Eckstein's role, linking Freud's "abandonment" of her position with respect to the Fliess surgery to his "abandonment" of her evidence for the paternal etiology of neurosis: for 'the idea – which even Masson concedes is crazy – that...all neurotic patients had been sexually abused'.[21]

I would like to change this to reflect my views, and would suggest this:

Jeffrey Masson in his book The Assault on Truth: Freud's Abandonment of the Seduction Theory, makes much of Eckstein's role. He believes that Freud was heavily influenced by Emma Eckstein (who actually was the first person to practice psychoanalysis after Freud, under his supervision), and the fact that she reported sexual abuse memories in her patients encouraged Freud to believe he had been correct to think of sexual abuse as playing a major role in the origin of neurosis. For a time he (and presumably Emma Eckstein as well) believed that all neurotic patients had been sexually abused. This is almost certainly not the case, but the role of sexual abuse (and other forms of childhood trauma) in most cases of adult happiness cannot be denied. Masson believes that the disastrous operation on Emma Eckstein by Fliess discouraged Freud from continuing to work and learn from her. Her role in the creation of psychoanalysis has never been properly acknowledged.

Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffrey Masson (talkcontribs) 00:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, @Jeffrey Masson:. The appropriate place to propose changes to an article (in this case that of Emma Eckstein) is on that article's Talk page.
However, you raise a large red flag with your wording "I would like to change this to reflect my views." Wikipedia should only contain text based directly on (though not copying word-for-word, except for short, attributed quotes) Reliable sources that are cited to support it. Your own "views" (just like mine, or anyone else's) are not appropriate unless they have appeared in a published reliable source, and in such a case you yourself should not add such material, but rather suggest on the Talk page that someone else might consider doing so.
The text you have reproduced from the article above is cited to a (presumably reliable) source written by a third party: if it misrepresents that source it should be amended appropriately or removed, but otherwise you should not remove cited material. If you disagree with the material you are free to add and cite material from other reliable sources that presents an alternative scholarly viewpoint (or propose them for such addition if they are your own work), but Wikipedia is not the venue to continue academic disagreements or present previously unpublished original material. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 00:47, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Remove 3 references and some text from a wikipage

Hi, The person of the page has requested me to delete the 44,50,51 references link and text related these links, The page is ",_Baroness_Greenfield" Can I remove it? please inform me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gain334989 (talkcontribs) 02:28, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Gain334989:Editors such as yourself are supposed to make decisions like this by discussion on the article's talk page to reach consensus. If there is a consensus, then remove the material or suggest that the other editor do so. You do not need permission from the help desk. -Arch dude (talk) 04:18, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Gain334989: Oops, I now see that the request is from the subject of the page. No, we do not remove reliably sources material from an article at the requiest of the subject. However, we are sensitive to poorly-sourced material or unreliable sources: see our policy at WP:BLP. If you agree that the sources do nt meet the extra rigour required for contentious material in a Biography, then remove it: otherwise not. -Arch dude (talk) 04:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Those look like rock-solid sources. Do not remove this material without some serious discussion on the talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 04:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
I've removed four sources, including the three mentioned above, and the text related to the same. All of these were primary in nature and did not adhere to wp:npov. Further discussions on the validity of these sources may be continued on the article's talk page. Thanks, Lourdes 08:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Social Media as Sources

Hello, my revision to a Wikipedia biography page on Noelle Stevenson ( was reverted as a result of, allegedly, my having used both Facebook and Twitter as sources. However, the specific Facebook and Twitter URLs provided were for the public Facebook and Twitter profiles of the persons whose (relevant) quotes were being referenced, including the SUBJECT of the bio page (Stevenson) whose OWN quotes were referenced and which do not appear in any other media. How does one properly cite a source for quotes attributable to the subject of a Wikipedia biography entry if those quotes are ONLY AVAILABLE on their social media profile?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eeverseau (talkcontribs) 06:15, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello Eeverseau. Well, you did use FB and twitter as sources.[1] Anyway, per WP:ABOUTSELF etc, if social media/whatever is the only source for something, we don't include it, unless possibly if it is something very uncontroversial about the subject themselves. Stuff like "which has been controversial" and "Stevenson has been outspoken in her defense of the new series on social media" should never be sourced to social media on WP, someone else must have noted it and bothered to write about it. When you have found non-social media sources, consider other stuff like WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:57, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
If you haven't, take a look at WP:RELIABLE SOURCES for our guideline on what sources can be used where. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I have to disagree with Gråbergs Gråa Sång here. Saying from a person's tweet that they have been outspoken in [their] defense of the new series on social media, claiming sexism, chauvinism, bigotry, racism, and prejudice are motivating the show's critics is your interpretation of the various tweets, and should not go on Wikipedia because it is original research; but that would have been the same if you had cited a NYT op-ed from that person. The problem is primary vs secondary source, not the quality of the starting source. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
You are not wrong, but I was thinking more an NYT article that said "Stevenson has been outspoken in her defense of the new series on social media". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)


I don't know where I should mention this, so maybe someone here knows. I just opened Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Language and it has a vandal's message scrawled on it. It cannot be removed by editing. 09:15, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Stephen G. Brown: Thanks for noticing. The vandalism was removed with this edit. Eagleash (talk) 09:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
There was some other vandalism (same content), not directly to the RefDesk but appearing on all of the desks, which has now been removed. DuncanHill (talk) 09:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Trouble with image

Stephen O. Dean (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Having trouble uploading my headshot for Steve Dean. I uploaded the jpg and it showed up in the preview, then was white in the thumbnail.

What do I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaydauenhauer (talkcontribs) 13:18, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jaydauenhauer: Hello, it is not clear exactly what it is you are referring to. I cannot see from your recent edits that you attempted to add an image to the article. Please can you give the volunteers here a little more information. When you say 'upload', where to?
Please note that punctuation goes before any references; I.e. at the end of the sentence or phrase but before the <ref> tag. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. I will leave some helpful links at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 14:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: I have tried to upload this image twice, File:Stephen Dean.jpg, File:Stephen O. Dean.tif. You can see that nothing shows up. What am I doing wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaydauenhauer (talkcontribs) 15:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
You've uploaded the images to Commons, but you haven't tried to call the image up in the enwiki article. See Help:Pictures for advice. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:32, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks David; I have placed the image at the page and left a message at Jaydauenhauer's TP. Eagleash (talk) 15:45, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: @David Biddulph: Thank you for your help. However, I am still seeing only white space for the image. Do you see the same? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaydauenhauer (talkcontribs) 16:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
You keep forgetting to sign your messages. No, the image displays happily for me, & doubtless for Eagleash too. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Jaydauenhauer: Yes, displays OK for me. If you are on a mobile device, try scrolling right the way down and selecting 'desktop'. BTW 'pings' don't work if you don't sign your posts. Eagleash (talk) 16:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Spacing problem at "Pope Benedict XVI"

Hi, why exactly is there such a big whitespace (ugly!) bewtween the section heading Pre-papal career and the sub-section heading Academic career: 1951–1977 below?--Neufund (talk) 13:20, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Neufund: The {{Ordination}} template was generating a blank line. Does it look OK now? -- John of Reading (talk) 13:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@John of Reading: Perfect! Thank you so much for your quick support! Best wishes--Neufund (talk) 13:32, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

What adverts or promotions can we put on our Wikipedia page?


We have just setup a new wikipedia account.

What type of advertising or website links are we allowed to add to our Wikipedia page?

We have a press releases article that was published by the Guardian newspaper, how do we add that if it’s possible?

Regards Mike Mumford — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mumfordbooks-guides (talkcontribs) 15:02, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

You are not allowed to use Wikipedia for advertising at all. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not an advertising platform. If you want to advertise there are plenty of other platforms for you to do that on. ~ GB fan 15:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Mumfordbooks-guides:You have made several (unfortunately very common) errors. Sorry. We have user pages, and we have articles. Each user has a name, and must be a unique individual, not a group. You will need to change your user name: see (WP:USERNAME). We only have articles for subject that are notable, by our definition, not yours. for organizations, see WP:NCORP. Yours probably does not qualify. If your organization does qualify, The article must not be edited directly by you (see WP:COI) but we will accept suggestions or a proposed article. If you are compensated by an organization for your work on Wikipedia (e.g., you are an employee), you must declare this to comply with our terms of use. See WP:PAID. We have these rules for a reason: Think about what you want as a reader of other articles, not as the employee of your company. -Arch dude (talk) 18:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Advice request: are these reliable sources toward the notability of this film?

Hi guys, with a view to creating a page for the argentinian film "Resurrection" by Gonzalo Calzada, may I offer the links below toward establishing if -in your expert view- notability and reliability criteria are met in this case?


Your help with this will be greatly appreciated. Neuralia (talk) 15:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

  • @Neuralia: Before answering, since my eyes hurt from looking your formatting of the above, let me point you to Help:List: numbered lists are obtained by indenting by hashes (#). Onto the question: you might also want to look at our criteria for films.
  1. You probably meant es:Resurrección (película de 2016), not the general page about resurrection. Not a good source for any kind of information: see WP:CIRCULAR. Use the sources from within instead. If you want to translate large portions of the content, read how to take care of licensing.
  2. midaccseems to be an event organized by an association of film directors. Your links points to a short plot and director bio because the film is part of the event; that short plot/bio in itself is WP:ROUTINE coverage. However being selected for the event might be evidence of notability, depending how prominent that event is (from what I can tell, not much, but I am not a Spanish speaker).
  3. I cannot access it right now, but assuming it is a review from a specialized site, it probably has little weight. Everybody and everything is famous in their own little niche, so we tend to require more mainstream coverage - mainstream press newspapers mean more than cinema newspapers which mean more than Spanish-speaking cinema newspapers etc.
  4. Not a good source: site content lists only routine details (date, cast, duration, etc.) and reviews are user-generated content.
  5. Almost the same as 4: blogs are usually not reliable sources, unless the blogger is extremely famous (and even so we rarely base controversial content off one single person's view).
Your sources look weak to my eyes. However this source from the es article looks decent (though I do not know how reliable the site is). I do not think one is enough though. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:51, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
  • @Tigraan:Thanks for your kind advice, you say one is not enough, how about adding these other two links also in spanish.
Do they add sufficient notability/reliability to the case? Could they not object if the main reliable sources are not in English? Thanks once again.Neuralia (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Functional Hypothalamic Amenorrhea page requirements

I am a college student and wish to use my capstone project to make a page specifically for Functional Hypothalamic Amenorrhea (FHA), which currently has no link on the page for Amenorrhea. Alternatively, I would update the "low body weight" section on the Amenorrhea page with more information about physiological causes and hormonal signaling pathways. Before I submit my proposal to the university, are there any restrictions or important information I should know that would prevent me from editing/creating this content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackp97 (talkcontribs) 16:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Mackp97: I can't see any problem at all with you contributing to this; indeed, this is exactly what Wikipedia exists for, to gather the contributions of knowledgeable editors who can summarize the information available from the world's reliable secondary sources. To get you started, you might want to read WP:PILLARS for a top-level guide to Wikipedia's content policies. You might also want to read WP:MEDRS for the slightly higher bar we place on sources for contributions on medical articles. I have made a stub article for this at Functional hypothalamic amenorrhea to help start you off: I look forward to your contributions. -- The Anome (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Mackp97: You may wish to discuss this in advance with your advisor. We want this material, but you need to ensure that it is not flagged as plagiarism when it subsequently appears in your college work. -Arch dude (talk) 17:49, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Uploading photos of family members


I'd like to upload a photo of my family member who has recently passed away. It's a passport photo taken few years ago. Please let me know if I can I publish this photo from the copyright perspective? Thanks! Here is the page I'm referring to:ł_Nadachowski — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukasz Dolowy (talkcontribs) 17:13, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Lukasz Dolowy: You may upload a picture if its copyright belongs to you, AND if it is suitable for inclusion in a article on Wikipedia. Is this person notable enough (see WP:N) for an article ? Make sure before you start such an article: it's a fairly high threshold. Failure to establish notability by our definition, not yours, will result in the article's deletion, which is frustrating for everybody. Alternatively, would the picture enhance an existing article? In either case, we can use it if you own the copyright. The copyright for a passport photo almost certainly belongs to the subject. This in not true for most photographs, whose copyright belongs to the photographer. If that person is deceased, it passes with the estate. If you ended up with it, I think it's reasonable for you to assert ownership of the copyright unless the estate is being litigated or something.By uploading, you will be licensing it to anyone, for any purpose. Make sure that you want to do that. -Arch dude (talk) 17:44, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@Lukasz Dolowy: what Arch Dude says is true for the English Wikipedia, but each language version is run as a separate project, with its own rules. You must ask at the Polish Wikipedia about the rules they enforce over there. Rojomoke (talk) 23:24, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Just to note that if the image is uploaded to Commons they have a tag for inherited images Commons:Template:PD-heirs MilborneOne (talk) 23:26, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
But of course that template is for the heirs of the copyright holder, not necessarily the heirs of the subject. As the earlier reply pointed out, it is important to understand whether the copyright belonged to the subject or to the photographer. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Dear Sir or Madam,

I was utterly horrified about a complete fabrication of the above page. There are simply no Turks in Bosnia only victims of their oppression and forced indoctrination. Bosnia is an independent country that was occupied by Turks for over 300 years in a very savage fashion. Turks have had a massive contribution in the recent murder through their agent Izetbegovic, which again has resulted in horrific civil war. This page clearly shows Turkish aspiration for innovation of Bosnia and it is extremely sensitive and infuriating. Please delete this page completely and ensure that the person who has created it does not create another similar page.

Kind regards,

IdaKulin — Preceding unsigned comment added by IdaKulin (talkcontribs) 17:24, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@IdaKulin:Please discuss article contents on the article's talk page. The article has references. If you dispute their reliability, discuss it on the talk page. If you have reliably-sourced (WP:RS) additional information to add to the article, you are free to add it even if it contradicts information in the article. Do not remove existing information that is referenced. -Arch dude (talk) 17:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Turkish savagery and murder of 300 years will have an extremely long list of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IdaKulin (talkcontribs) 17:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry but there is nothing to discuss about this article when everything is false. The article must be deleted completely. Who do I discuss anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IdaKulin (talkcontribs) 17:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@IdaKulin: It is not the job of the help desk, or of any other editor, to find and document references. You must add them to a discussion on the talk page. If you wish to propose the article's deletion, you still must start on the talk page. You will need to make a cogent and well-referenced argument for deletion. After such a discussion, you can then propose a deletion via WP:AFD, but if you skip the discussion step, your proposal will be declined. -Arch dude (talk) 18:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

RE: Connecting two userpages in different language Wikidpedias


I use Wikipedia and Vicipéid (the Irish language version of Wikipedia). I have a user page on each detailing the threads I have started and a couple of other things. All of the new articles I have started on both Wikipedias are linked to one another to date as they are mostly on the same topics or organisations. However I cannot- and I have been trying for ages to find out- find out how to link my Userpage on Wikpedia to my Userpage on Vicipéid, so that other people looking at my Userpages can link to to the other one if they want? Could somebody please tell me how to do it?


Darren J. Prior (talk) 19:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Darren J. Prior: Use interwiki link syntax. Your user page at Vicipéid is ga:User:Darren J. Prior. Just use that as a link, with our without piped text as you see fit. From there, you can link back to en:User:Darren J. Prior. -Arch dude (talk) 19:47, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Oops! I did not realize the leading colon would not display. The actual link looks like this: [[:ga:User:Darren J. Prior]]. -Arch dude (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
  • The more boring but detailed answer is that Wikipedia pages across languages and projects are linked together via Wikidata, but an editor usually does not meet Wikidata's standards for notability, and so you cannot link your user pages together in this way. GMGtalk 19:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

I have it working on both now guys- thanks a million! Regards, Darren J. Prior (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Copyright violation?

I would like to delete a section about "herd behavior" in the Marketing article on the basis that it is a copyright violation. I believe that the content is a straight cut and paste from a book, Sales Management: Keys to Effective Sales By PUNDRIK MISHRA (2009), p. 40. As only a short section of a longer article is involved, a revdelete copyvio tag appears to be the most appropriate way to proceed. However the copyvio instructions call for the "number of the first (oldest) revision to be deleted" and the "number of the last (newest) revision to be deleted (optional)" and I have been unable to obtain this information due to problems with Wikiblame. When I search the article's prior history for details of the addition of "herd" or other key words from the relevant passage, the system appears to get itself into an infinite loop and only returns the result that the content was "already present" on the dates of "2 August, 2017" and "18 February, 2017" (which are repeated endlessly), but does not proceed beyond these dates. Even if I let it search for half a day, it simply returns lengthy lists of these two dates and nothing else. I have tried several times over the past few weeks to get a result from the prior search function, all to no avail. I would appreciate some advice on how to proceed. BronHiggs (talk) 19:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@BronHiggs: When did you first remove the suspected violation? TeraTIX 22:59, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
User:Teratix I haven't removed it because I am unable to comply with the instructions in the revdelete template. I think that it should be removed as it is a fairly clear copyvio. Perhaps I did not explain clearly the reasons for this - but I am unable to determine when the content was added due to issues getting Wikiblame to work properly. BronHiggs (talk) 23:10, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
The problem with Wikiblame is presumably because a number of years of history were hidden because of an earlier copyvio. You need to start the Wikiblame search from before this gap in the history. If you do that you'll find that the words to which you refer were added in this edit in December 2006. If I understand correctly, you would be asking for a revdelete of nearly 12 years of history. You probably need advice from the copyvio experts. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Actually, only four years, because the history between 2009 and 2017 is already revdelled, as you said. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. It looks like it could actually be a form of reverse plagiarism because the book was published in 2009 and the content in question was apparently added in 2006. Those dates suggest that the author of the book copied from the Wikipedia article - and it wouldn't be the first time that sort of thing has happened! Thanks anyway - problem solved and a good explanation for why I was suddenly experiencing difficulties with Wikiblame. BronHiggs (talk) 05:49, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Infobox problem

Hi, how can one improve the formatting of the line "Metro(1 January 2012)" in the Copenhagen infobox?--Neufund (talk) 21:00, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Neufund: There is no infobox in Copenhagen Consensus, and "Metro" or "January 2012" does not occur in the page. After some searching I guess you mean Copenhagen. I inserted a space with {{sp}}.[2] Normal spaces are stripped from the start and end of named template parameters. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Yes, thanks a lot, that's exactly what I meant! I must have slipped when selecting the link from the autocomplete. Best wishes--Neufund (talk) 20:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Foreign language links:to what degree are they valid to support notability/reliability of a non-English film?

Dear people, my reliable sources to support the creation of a foreign-film page are no in English but in Spanish, is that Ok to proceed? Neuralia (talk) 21:17, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Neuralia. Foreign language sources are acceptable but if English sources are available, they are preferred. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 21:24, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Are these sources reliable toward the notability of this spanish film?

Dear people, how do you appraise the reliability of these sources toward establishing the notability of a spanish film with a view to creating the corresponding page?


Although existing, sources in English for the subject have been considered "suboptimal". The corresponding page in the Spanish Wikipedia may be reached at Thanks. Neuralia (talk) 22:18, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

How to answer a question on your Talk?

Someone has asked me a question using their Talk. How do I answer it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliallen2 (talkcontribs) 23:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

@Aliallen2: Most folks simply answer the question where it was asked, with an indentation (a leading colon), and sign the answer with four tildes (~~~~). Some folks prefer to answer in a new section on their own talk page (why? I don't know) with a "ping" back to the original user like this: {{ping|otherusers name}}. -Arch dude (talk) 23:41, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

October 16

Fixing inaccurate link to wrong person


I'm not sure what steps to take to resolve this, but My name is Chad Davidson and I'm the Cinematographer of the following film:

My name is listed correctly as the Cinematographer, but it links to a completely different person, also named Chad Davidson, who is a poet and did not work on this film.

Here is my IMDB page:

Not sure how to fix this since the information is accurate, but the link is not.

Any assistance you could lend would be very much appreciated.

Thank you sincerely,

Chad Davidson Cinematographer NYC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdnyc5293 (talkcontribs) 04:21, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

I've removed the link. The cinematographer does not merit his/your own article at this time, so no redlink is necessary. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Why are all my new pages drafts?

Hi, Can someone look at please? How do I submit it to AfC?

Thanks--Boothsift (talk) 06:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@Boothsift: You have created two draft articles using the AFC process. Good for you! Many new editors start by directly creating mainspace articles as soon as they can, and often they end up getting deleted because they don't meet our criteria. Even better, both of your articles have already been reviewed and moved into mainspace. I think this may be some sort of record, since most articles sit in the review pool for a month or more before an interested editor reviews and moves them. Welcome to Wikipedia and keep up the good work. -Arch dude (talk) 07:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Well done Boothsift, thanks for the new articles. Arch dude new articles about living things (animals, plants, bacteria, pond scum, etc) are; easy to write, easy to reference, and the subjects are inherently notable (because the act of defining/describing a species, even a newly discovered one, by publishing in a relevant scientific journal, creates a solid reliable source that can be used for our article). Consequently they frequently sail through AFC with perhaps only minor fixes. I wish most new editors would pick such subjects for their first articles rather than trying to promote wannabe garage bands or youtubers. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

User contributions of User:BrendanDouglasKearney

I came across the above user today, after an edit they had made to the page "Weird Al" Yankovic, which I reverted because it failed WP:IRS, WP:SOAP and WP:COI. After looking at their user contributions page, I can see that over the last few days they have made similar self-promotional edits to the articles David Vetter, Ai Weiwei, Leonardo da Vinci and Abraham Lincoln, and the content they have added survives in the current revisions of all these pages. I felt it would be best to ask for advice about how me or another editor should respond to User:BrendanDouglasKearney before reverting any of their other edits, as I don't want to be construed as starting a personal crusade against them, but I can't see that their current editing activity is anything other than a blatant means of self-promotion. Thanks in advance. --Jonie148 (talk) 07:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jonie148: You are supposed to WP:AGF and assume the user does not know the rules. Engage the user on his talk page, politely linking to the proper policies, and ask the user to cease this activity and to self-revert the additions. I personally don't handle this too well so I would find another editor to do it. Escalate as needed, possibly the SPAM team if appropriate. -Arch dude (talk) 07:36, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Brilliant, thanks for the advice --Jonie148 (talk) 08:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Next steps with articel after it is in user-name-space

Hello Wikipedia-Team,

for a fried, wich works in a public relevant space (she is coach and uses an interesting mixture of methods) I would like to write a wikipedia articel about here. (As a side effect publish it "as a birthday present", because everybody can be proud, if he is meaningful for the world so that he also has an articel in the biggest free encyclopedia world wide.)

I began to write the articel, then another user copied it to my personal namespace because of a relevance question. Now I continued writing, triend to make clear that the work of the friend is relevant for Wikipedia. No I am not sure what to do next. Could someone access if the criteria is no fullfilled or which part needs to be more detailled? And how can I move then the articel back in the normal Wikipedia space?

Kind regards! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KatrinGiselaMariaGrabe (talkcontribs) 11:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@KatrinGiselaMariaGrabe: The page you linked to is on the German version of Wikipedia; are you trying to bring it to this version(English)? If you just want to publish it on the German version, you need to speak to users there. 331dot (talk) 11:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Also, KatrinaGiselaMariaGrabe, see the essay WP:PRIDE for why writing a Wikipedia article about someone might not be a very good birthday present. --ColinFine (talk) 16:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

The name of my Wikipedia page is incorrect

I'm the E-Commerce executive at Amman Rotana Hotel. I'm responsible for everything online and so I've noticed the hotel's name on Wikipedia is incorrect. It is listed as Rotana Amman instead of Amman Rotana. Since I have zero experience with Wikipedia, can someone walk me through changing the page's name??

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammanrotana (talkcontribs) 13:43, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@Ammanrotana: You asked the same question at Wikipedia:Teahouse#How can I change the name of my Wikipedia page? and it has been answered by a couple of editors. Please check that thread for reference. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Who is Godrik? This guy is putting false information on Mr. Shyam Rudra Pathak's wikipedia page.

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Dear Wikipedia Executive,

One wikipedia user named "Godrik_ki_Kothri" is putting False information on the wikipedia page on Mr. Shyam Rudra Pathak.

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For instance, in the following list of changes on the page on Shyam Rudra Pathak on wikipedia:

(सद्य | पिछला) 13:17, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ Godric ki Kothri (चर्चा | योगदान)‎ छो . . (20,709 बाइट्स) (-4,604)‎ . . ( (Talk) के संपादनों को हटाकर J ansari के आखिरी अवतरण को पूर्ववत किया) (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: प्रत्यापन्न) (सद्य | पिछला) 12:40, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ (चर्चा)‎ . . (25,313 बाइट्स) (+16)‎ . . (→‎परिचय) (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: यथादृश्य संपादिका) (सद्य | पिछला) 12:36, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ (चर्चा)‎ . . (25,297 बाइट्स) (+1,767)‎ . . (→‎आईआईटी प्रवेश परीक्षा हिन्दी में भी) (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: यथादृश्य संपादिका) (सद्य | पिछला) 12:30, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ (चर्चा)‎ . . (23,530 बाइट्स) (+2,918)‎ . . (→‎सन्दर्भ) (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: यथादृश्य संपादिका) (सद्य | पिछला) 12:29, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ (चर्चा)‎ . . (20,612 बाइट्स) (-97)‎ . . (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: removal of articles for deletion template, यथादृश्य संपादिका) (सद्य | पिछला) 12:29, 16 अक्टूबर 2018‎ J ansari (चर्चा | योगदान)‎ छो . . (20,709 बाइट्स) (-2,918)‎ . . ( (Talk) के संपादनों को हटाकर Raju Jangid के आखिरी अवतरण को पूर्ववत किया) (पूर्ववत करें) (टैग: प्रत्यापन्न)

you can see that at 13:17 on 16 October 2018 Godrik ki Kothri made a set of changes to my version of 12:40 on 16 October 2018. This effectively changes

" 1985 में उन्होंने भारतीय भाषाओं में आईआईटी की प्रवेश परीक्षा कराने की मांग को लेकर आंदोलन शुरू किया। तमाम धरने-प्रदर्शन के बाद भी भारत सरकार इस तार्किक पवित्रता एवम सम्पूर्णता से भरी मांग को ना मानने पर अड़ी रही। परन्तु श्री पाठक इस बात का खुलकर विरोध करते रहे और अपने लेख व भाषण से अपनी ये राय व्यक्त करते रहे कि भारत सरकार ऐसा सिर्फ देश के अमीरों के लाभ हेतु कर रही है जो कि इस विदेशी भाषा से अपनी परिचय और इस भाषा की अपनी ज्ञान को एक हथ्यार की तरह इस्तमाल करना चाहती है ताकि देश की गरीब जनता के अत्यधिक काबिल छात्र अपनी तीव्रता एवम विज्ञान की ज्ञान के बल पे आभिजात्य वर्ग से आने वाले अपर्याप्त काबलियत के छात्रों को टक्कर ना दे सकें सिर्फ इस वजह से कि उनके लिए अंग्रेज़ी या किसी विदेशी भाषा से परिचित होना ना हि सुलभ है ना आर्थिक रूप से सहनीय। सरकार पर अपनी दबाव डालने के लिए वे आमरण अन्नशन पर चले गए। कई दिनों तक भारत सरकार एवं भारतीय प्रौद्योगिकी संस्थानों की अंग्रेज़ीदाँ आबादी इसे महत्त्वपूर्ण ना समझ कर इसे नज़रंदाज़ करती रही। जब श्री पाठक का यह 1990 का अन्नशन सतरह दिनों से आगे बढ़ गया तो देश भर में तापमान बढ़ने लगा। जब भारत सरकार ने श्री पाठक की मांगें मान लीं तब श्री पाठक ने अन्नशन तोड़ा। वे हिन्दी प्रेम में, देश प्रेम में एवं असमानता और अन्याय के विरुद्ध अपनी इस जंग में साढ़े उन्नीस दिन भूखे रह चुके थे और गंभीर रूप से अस्वस्थ थे। अपनी इस अकेली लड़ी आंदोलन में उन्होंने देखा कि ये फैसला सचमुच हो पाया। उन्हीं के प्रयास से आई आई टी में हिंदी माध्यम एवं अन्य भारतीय भाषाओं से परीक्षाएं होने लगी हैं और अबतक भी हो रही हैं। उनके पूर्णतः स्वस्थ हो जाने के पश्चात कई बड़ी राजनीतिक पार्टियों ने उन्हें टिकट लेने के लिए आमंत्रित किया परन्तु उन्होंने ठुकरा दिया और टाटा मूलभूत अनुसन्धान संस्थान में पी एच डी की पढ़ाई शुरू करने का फ़ैसला लिया। "


" 1985 में उन्होंने भारतीय भाषाओं में आईआईटी की प्रवेश परीक्षा कराने की मांग को लेकर आंदोलन शुरू किया। तमाम धरने-प्रदर्शन के बाद भी भारत सरकार इस मांग को ना मानने पर अड़ी रही। सरकार पर अपनी दबाव डालने के लिए वे अपने मित्रों के साथ आमरण अन्नशन पर चले गए। कई दिनों तक भारत सरकार एवं भारतीय प्रौद्योगिकी संस्थानों की अंग्रेज़ीदाँ आबादी इसे महत्त्वपूर्ण ना समझ कर इसे नज़रंदाज़ करती रही। जब श्री रेखा का यह 1990 का अन्नशन सतरह दिनों से आगे बढ़ गया तो देश भर में तापमान बढ़ने लगा। जब भारत सरकार ने उनकी मांगें मान लीं तब उन्होंने अन्नशन तोड़ा। इन्हीं लोगों द्वारा लड़ी आंदोलन में देश ने देखा कि ये फैसला सचमुच हो पाया। इन्हीं लोगों के प्रयास से आई आई टी में हिंदी माध्यम एवं अन्य भारतीय भाषाओं से परीक्षाएं होने लगी हैं और अबतक भी हो रही हैं। उनके पूर्णतः स्वस्थ हो जाने के पश्चात कई बड़ी राजनीतिक पार्टियों ने उन्हें टिकट लेने के लिए आमंत्रित किया परन्तु उन्होंने ठुकरा दिया और श्री पाठक ने टाटा मूलभूत अनुसन्धान संस्थान में पी एच डी की पढ़ाई शुरू करने का फ़ैसला लिया। "

If you compare these, by clearly concentrating on the italicized portions in the above two texts, you can see that this user is trying to add false information on the wikipedia page of Mr. Shyam Rudra Pathak and is removing valuable information as well. Further, he is concocting the existence of someone called Shri Rekha when there's no one by that name who has done anything that he (Godrik ki Kothri) is writing. The information that I had written, by seeing the history of changes, is the correct information. You shall look into this.

Somehow, this Godrik ki Kothri username bearing person/woman has also erased the following paragraph that I had written:

" यह विकीपीडिया पृष्ठ एक देश हित मेँ स्व-हित को नज़रअंदाज़ करने वाले सामाजिक कार्यकर्ता पर है। देश भर के राजनीतिज्ञों के चंद प्रतिशत ने भी ना तो एक बार ही उन्नीस दिन या उससे ज़्यादा का उपवास रखके सरकार द्वारा देश का अहित कराने वाले किसी कानून को रद्द करवाया है ना ही धूप घाम पानी सहकर दो सौ उन्नीस दिनों से ज़्यादा का अनवरत धरना दिया है। श्री पाठक १९९० में एक राष्ट्रीय हीरो थे और पिछले कई वर्षों से अखबार, पत्रिकाओँ एवं रेडियो साक्षात्कारोँ मेँ देश का अहित कराने वाले कानूनों को रद्द करवाने के लिए देश को अपने साथ लेने के प्रयास मेँ जुटे हुए हैँ। क्रिकेट, सिनेमा, इत्यादी जैसे अनुल्लेखनीय चीज़ों में डूबे मीडिया ऐसे उल्लेखनीय चर्चा को उजागर करते नहीँ है। विकीपीडिया पर यह पृष्ठ तब आया था जब श्री पाठक भारतीय राष्ट्रीय कांग्रेस मुख्यालय के बाहर सत्याग्रह पर इस मांग के साथ बैठे थे कि सर्वोच्च न्यायालय में अंग्रेजी के साथ-साथ हिन्दी और उच्च न्यायालयों में अंग्रेजी के अलावा सम्बंधित राज्यों की मातृभाषा में बहस हो। विकीपीडिया पर बने ऐसे पृष्ठों को सम्पूर्ण एवं आकर्षक बनाने में मदद करें ताकि इस पृष्ठ की असम्पूर्णता एवं अनाकर्षकता की बुनियाद पर कोई इस पृष्ठ की उल्लेखनीयता पर प्रश्न चिन्ह ना लगा सके। "

He also keeps erasing my corrections and tries to write that this wikipedia page is not "उल्लेखनीय" which is the hindi word for "important", He writes this on the top of the page in some kind of a boxed advertisement for a discussion that they have created somewhere on wikipedia.

Please look into it.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:12, 16 October 2018 (UTC) Greetings. What you present here is India Wikipedia user and believe the article you mentioned is also from IN Wikipedia. This is English Wikipedia site, for such you need to go to IN Wikipedia to seek assistance. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
CASSIOPEIA its actually the Hindi Wikipedia ( There's no such thing as an India Wikipedia and does not exist - "in" is not a valid language code. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:37, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
We do not have an interwiki link for the Hindi help desk, so the user will need to go to the Hindi Wikipedia main page at hi:मुखपृष्ठ and navigate into their help system from there. -Arch dude (talk) 15:45, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I have removed most of the unsourced content from the article using Google Translate. Please take up further discussions at the Hindi Wikipedia page as suggested by Arch dude. Thanks, Lourdes 15:50, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Saved articles in Wikipedia iPhone app available when logged into my browser

I have a handful of saved lists and articles (not quite sure of the difference yet), but I have all of these articles categorized in my Wikipedia iPhone app, but when I logged into my Wikipedia account using my laptop and a Chrome browser, I can't find where any of my saved articles would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Mike F. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikefranke11 (talkcontribs) 16:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@Mikefranke11: There appear to be a lot of such apps (List of Wikipedia mobile applications). I don't think we can help you here. We are knowledgable about using and editing Wikipedia, but not necessarily about Wikipedia apps. Does your app have a separate help system or documentation? -Arch dude (talk) 17:50, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Mikefranke11, we might be able to help you here. The Wikipedia official iPhone app allows you to save articles and lists (read Wikipedia:What is an article? to understand the similarities and differences between the two). However, these saved articles and lists will not be visible when you log in using your desktop, as the saving option is limited to when you login using the Wikipedia app. You can, of course, sync the saved articles across your other mobile devices using the option provided in the app. Read Wikimedia Apps/iOS FAQ#Offline reading and data to understand this further. Ask here or ping me directly for more assistance. Thanks, Lourdes 18:54, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Missing page

I created a page for myself and it has magically been deleted. I've just now created a new draft and it's waiting review. Any reason my a page would be removed? I am an actor and I'm simply using this page as a reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babazonian (talkcontribs) 16:33, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

It was probably deleted because you don't appear to be notable enough to warrant an article, and you are writing about yourself thus have a conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not for this.
Additionally, even if reliably sourced (which it isn't) the draft article needs a lot of work before it can be considered valid - the language and tone fall way short of an encyclopaedic article, containing peacock terms and flowery prose - "acclaimed", "legendary" and "wonderful" for example.
When other people have written about you, somebody else may decide an article is warranted, but until then - nothing to show. Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
@Babazonian: Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY (i.e., don't do this). Also read WP:PRIDE (i.e., be careful what you wish for.) -Arch dude (talk) 17:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Helpful , understandable, thanks so much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babazonian (talkcontribs) 17:46, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Babazonian: You can find the discussion about deleting the article here. It's one of the shorter and less illuminating deletion discussions I've seen. It boils down to the fact that James Babson doesn't seem to meet the criteria listed here. Moreover, the article was not supported by sufficient sources that discussed Mr. Babson's life and career. Lastly, if you are Mr. Babson, you shouldn't write about yourself. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 17:52, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing group

I am trying to nest SFN notes into some EFN notes. The last SFN invariably produces the error "Cite error: A list-defined reference named FOOTNOTE___ is not used in the content (see the help page)", even though that is not the case. The SFN is written correctly in the content, and the citation is also correct. When I try to cite the same source a second time, with different page numbers, those also fail. Nesting footnotes is not ideal, but when it’s needed, it ought to work. This question does not pertain to a current, active edit for any particular article. MonteGargano (talk) 23:17, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

@MonteGargano: Please post the broken code or a link to an example. We are not psychic. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:16, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
The error came up as I was trying to make some changes. It is not an error on an existing page. I was hopeful this was a known error and there might be a fix. I guess not. You can easily reproduce the error by adding and EFN and then putting a SFN into it, then showing a preview. It has failed for me on numerous articles from several different computers. MonteGargano (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
I finally found the answer. In order for a SFN to appear within a EFN, the EFN has to be written entirely within the paragraph, along with the SFN. You cannot use the more helpful format of efn|name = ABC, with the SFN in the notelist at the bottom of the test.
The correct format is given in one of the examples in “Help:Shortened footnotes”, but without a clear explanation that sfn does not work correctly within the notelist. Most frustratingly, SFN sometimes DOES work within notelist, which leads to the incorrect assumption that one′s citation is written incorrectly. MonteGargano (talk) 01:23, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@MonteGargano: If you have the time, it would be very helpful if you update that help page to include your findings. You went tio a lot of effort and it would be a pity to lose that knowledge. -Arch dude (talk) 01:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@MonteGargano:Your section heading refers to Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing group but the error message you quote, "Cite error: A list-defined reference named FOOTNOTE___ is not used in the content (see the help page)" is the one from Help:Cite errors/Cite error references missing key. The error is documented on that latter page. Did the blue link from the error message take you to the wrong help page? -- John of Reading (talk) 06:19, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

October 17

Susan Wojcicki Vandalism

Hi there, something is going on and YouTube is down. While YouTube is down, some unregistered users decided to vandalize the page by adding the death date and renaming the CEO of YouTube to CEO of PornHub.

David Isaac C. M. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

The vandalism has been removed and the page has been semi-protected for a couple of days so IPs and new accounts cannot edit directly. TeraTIX 02:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Word Processing Options

Hi, I have somehow managed to change my word processors action from the usual, where you position your caret, enter a letter and it is inserted into the word to: if your position your caret and enter a letter, instead of inserting it, it inserts and deletes the letter you are highlighting. This makes it impossible to go back and edit text as you cant insert, only insert and delete. I can't find an option to change it back. Can anyone help please many thanks  TUXLIE  07:50, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Have you pressed the "INSERT" key, usually in the upper right part of the keyboard? Try that. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:12, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Tuxlie: Yes, what Chaheel said. The "normal" way your computer works is called "insert" mode. You can toggle "insert" mode on or off by hitting a specific "INSERT" key on some computers, or by using CTRL+"i" on most computers. -Arch dude (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies guys, that fixed my problem  TUXLIE 

Why has Internationalist Theatre a main space Wikipedia article since 2 yrs ago been put on NOINDEX_ Category ?

Sock blocked and unhappy that pet article isn't profiled in search engines as expected. Clueless that their activity has led to the reason why.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 16:13, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Please assist in removing this anomaly since NOINDEX Category applies to articles of no less than 30 days and not to older articles,and in this casemore than 2 yrs old. So malfunction has occurred. {{Alizafar567 (talk) 09:03, 17 October 2018 (UTC)}}

@Alizafar567: As far as I can see, the page Internationalist Theatre includes the {{Undisclosed paid}} template, which in turn includes {{NOINDEX}} and that's probabaly a way the article falls into the NOINDEX category. When the paid editing issue gets resolved and the template is removed, the article will (possibly) get indexed normally. --CiaPan (talk) 09:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@CiaPan: Thank you for the clarification for Internationalist Theatre . Why has the Wikipedia main space article since 2 yrs ago been removed from google and bing indexing and been replaced by which it is clearly not ? Thank you {{Alizafar567 (talk) 09:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)}}
@Alizafar567: I have no idea, I don't know the history of Angelique Rockas and Draft:Angelique Rockas pages. I also do not know the algorithms and criteria ruling both web indexes. --CiaPan (talk) 10:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Alizafar567: The Angelique Rockas page shows up in this google search. Does it not appear to you? Eagleash (talk) 10:44, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Angelique Rockas EN does not appear on google search as a website link but only in the infoocx on the right hand side. It is still excluded from the index of website links.

And on the search we get Who has placed the Draft on Angelique Rockas main space Wikipedia entry? Redirect from Draft as you have done does not remove the prefix draft from the Main space entry? So what has happened? Thank you {{Alizafar567 (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2018 (UTC)}}

  • The Draft space article is in Draft space, not main space. We have no control how Bing chooses to index articles here. Also @Berean Hunter:. CrowCaw 14:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Alizafar567: I'm not entirely certain what has happened here, but it looks as if duplicate pages were created alongside each other one as a draft and one possibly directly into mainspace. In these circumstances it is not uncommon for the draft to be turned into a redirect as happened previously here. It is one way of dealing with the duplication although I'm not sure whether it is the most satisfactory. The mainspace article is at Angelique Rockas and the draft is at Draft:Angelique Rockas.
With regard to the failure to show in Google search, it seems Angelique Rockas also had a paid-editing template which was only removed yesterday so it might be a case of Google not quite catching up as yet. BTW there is no need to place curly brackets around your signature. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 15:11, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Note: The paid editing template (which was removed by an Admin.) has now been reinstated. Eagleash (talk) 15:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

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Need To Information About Company

Please guide the steps to write article in wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sansuielectronics (talkcontribs) 09:41, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sansuielectronics: Hello and welcome to the Help Desk. I have posted some important information about your username on your user talk page, please review it as soon as you can. Regarding your question, you should not attempt to write about your company. You have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest. I assume you are an employee of the company, which also means you are a paid editor. You must disclose the latter per Wikipedia's Terms of Use. Both of those mean that you are too close to your company to be able to write about it objectively. Wikipedia has no interest in what a company wants to say about itself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects like a company. Those subjects must be shown to meet the relevant notability guidelines, such as the ones for companies. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field.
If you just want to tell the world about your company, you should do so on its own website, social media, or other alternative forum. If your company truly merits an encyclopedic article here, you shouldn't be the one to write it. 331dot (talk) 09:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Sansuielectronics!
  1. Please see Wikipedia:Username policy, esp. the WP:CORPNAME section.
  2. Please see Wikipedia:Notability guideline, esp. rules at WP:CORP to see if the company really should be written about at Wikipedia.
  3. If so, then please see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and make sure the company should be written about by you.
  4. After making sure you're OK to proceed, see WP:Verifiability, esp. the WP:SOURCES section.
Or just start at Wikipedia:Your first article, which will lead you through all basic requirements. --CiaPan (talk) 09:54, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Dwight Oliver Taylor

Wrong photo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:5D12:4700:A081:519F:404C:B791 (talk) 09:57, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Symbol move vote.svg Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong.--Shantavira|feed me 10:14, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

What photo? As far as I can see, our article Dwight Taylor (writer) does not contain any photo (and it did not contain one during 2018). Can you please show an URL to the page where the 'wrong photo' is? --CiaPan (talk) 10:26, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

@CiaPan: As implied above it is probably here. Eagleash (talk) 10:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: Yes, I saw that. I also made the same guess myself. But I'm not asking about your, my or Shantavira's guesses, I asked about the fact IP-user observed. --CiaPan (talk) 10:36, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I want to create Wikipedia Page.

Hello Wikipedia Team,

I am trying to create Wikipedia page, but i am not able to create it.

I am looking for a content writer who can create wikipedia content for me.

can you provide us wikipedia content writer details with their charges?

Please reply me ASAP.

Regards, Pradeep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pradeepk123 (talkcontribs) 12:15, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are created by volunteers across the globe. While it is technically not a violation of our Terms of Service for someone to create articles for pay, they must fully disclose what they are doing, and frankly they encounter a great amount of hostility from the volunteer community. We strongly discourage you from trying to do this. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:36, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Pradeepk123: I'm sorry but we cannot recommend someone you can hire to write about what I assume to be you or your company for you. That's something you will have to do yourself, but understand that anyone you hire cannot guarantee any certain result, such as the article surviving deletion. They will also need to comply with WP:PAID and declare that you hired them. Please note that Wikipedia is not for merely telling the world about your organization or you. The subject must be notable. Your best bet, if the subject truly merits an article, is to wait for an independent editor to take note of it and write on their own. I would strongly recommend against doing what you describe. 331dot (talk) 12:41, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Pradeepk123:If you decide to proceed against our advice above, then you will find someone. Do be aware that there are people who claim the ability to create a Wikipedia article, and some claim or imply that that they have extra privileges or abilities to get that article onto Wikipedia. This is untrue: do not pay these people until the article has remained on Wikipedia for a month if they make such a claim. If the subject is notable (by our definition, not yours -- see WP:N), a competent high-school student can create an article that will succeed. If the subject is not notable, an article by the best writer in the world will still get deleted. -Arch dude (talk) 16:45, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

How do I upload a photograph to a page? How do I replace a photograph with an updated photograph?

I am trying to add additional photos to the Essex, CT page under Culture and Attractions. Are there any help videos that would walk me through it? I did just add a site to to the historical places - Comstock Cheney Hall (aka The Ivoryton Playhouse) and I want to link that to a page- how do I do that? Thank you, Betsy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eadamico (talkcontribs) 14:51, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey Betsy, thanks for stopping by. If you're just looking for some tutorials or guidance in uploading videos, there's a help menu at Help:Menu/Images and media that may be useful. Specifically, the first question (most important, really) is if the images in question are legally allowed to be put on Wikipedia. If you own the copyright on the images, or if they are in the public domain, you may upload them to Wikimedia Commons, which is the main media repository. If you do NOT own the copyright, or if the image copyright is held by someone else, or if the image copyright is of unclear status, it should probably not be uploaded (there are some exceptions to that, but it's too complicated to get into right now). If you do wish to upload images you are allowed to upload, here is the upload wizard in Commons. It will walk you through the process. Once it is uploaded this page will help you add them to Wikipedia articles. --Jayron32 16:49, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
@Eadamico: I fixed your link. Based on your struggles with that link, I think you might want to play around on a test page a bit to get a better feel for how these things work. You can use your own user page at User:Eadamico, or a separate page such as User:Eadamico/test. But even making little mistakes in a real article is not too bad. We'll just fix it. Now for the photo. First, make sure you are the photographer or that you otherwise own the copyright. This is essential because we must obey the law, including copyright law. Now, get the photo onto your computer in some way. Now, go the the main page of Wiki Commons, which is where we keep (almost) all our photos. click this link: c:Wikimedia Commons. Then, click on the "upload" button near the top right of that page, and follow the instructions after that. At the very end, the photo is saved into commons and you are told the syntax that you can then place in the article here at Wikipedia. Try that in your test page until you are happy with the way it is added, and then put it in the actual target page. Come back here is you have problems. -Arch dude (talk) 17:16, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Human Body Temperature

On the Human Body Temperature page you have two items with exact same info which I believe is incorrect. See below:

Fever >37.5 or 38.3 °C (99.5 or 100.9 °F)[4][5] Hyperthermia >37.5 or 38.3 °C (99.5 or 100.9 °F)[4][5]

As you can see they are exactly the same and leave a temperature gap to the next highest temp condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:3C20:DC9:7839:BC5C:A75E:7CFA (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

I've added a heading to your question to separate it from the one above.
See the note just below the table in the infobox on Human Body Temperature. It points out that fever and hyperthermia differ in their underlying mechanisms, and that there are different cutoff temperatures defined in different sources. There is no universally accepted definition of the terms.
Also, please sign your comments on discussion pages like this one by typing four tildes (~~~~). Rojomoke (talk) 16:38, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Weird diff

Can someone look at Special:Diff/864505893 and identify what exactly was changed? If there's a difference, I'm missing it. Home Lander (talk) 17:40, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Home Lander: The IP removed some extra whitespace after the "High School: Grade 9 to Grade 12 (International Baccalaureate Diploma Program is offered in Grades 11 and 12)." They didn't change anything contentwise.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 17:44, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
  • SkyGazer 512, Home Lander, well, the most intriguing edit I've seen in my experience is this one, which had "no difference" in the subsequent edit, yet still was logged. Can you decode that?! Lourdes 18:00, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
    Lourdes, that's certainly a weird one. The only thought I have is that there was some invisible unicode-type character that was added (since it apparently added a byte to the page). On another note, I'm using reply-link to reply to your comment and seem to have found a bug - the script automatically fills in the username to tag the user being replied to, but it filled in your username with "❤️" instead of Lourdes. I'm assuming that's an old username of yours, so I might bring this up with the script operator. Home Lander (talk) 19:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
    Lourdes' current signature links to User talk:❤️ which redirects to User talk:Lourdes. The signature doesn't follow WP:SIGLINK which says: "Signatures must include at least one direct internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
    What PrimeHunter says is possibly the reason Home Lander. Tell me if the script now works. I've linked the talk page directly now. Warmly, Lourdes 02:17, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
    And on a side note Home Lander, I've now installed the reply user script and think it's maddeningly infatuating :D Enterprisey, cheers. Lourdes 02:34, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
    Good to hear, thanks! :) Enterprisey (talk!) 02:49, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
    Lourdes, sure enough, it works now. It's a great script, indeed. Home Lander (talk) 00:58, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Shoal Creek in Austin -- Flooding History

Your history of Shoal Creek is very well done. However, I wanted to let you know of one fact you might want to include. My parents built the first house on the west side of the creek past 38th street in 1949. The address was 4105 Jefferson. The first bad flood occurred on the night of Oct. 28, 1960. Around midnight, the creek was in our house about two feet high. All the homes in our neighborhood on the creek were flooded. The water was waste high in the street. flooding occurred because a developer about three blocks down the street above the creek on the east side was dumping waste into the creek and created a damn. The neighborhood took him to court but received little in a judgment. Joe Hornaday Jr. 2600:1700:F300:2CE0:A9D5:4330:6DD:8003 (talk) 21:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Joe. While this is interesting, we cannot use it in Wikipedia directly, because of the peculiar way Wikipedia works. We do not have (and do not want to have) any way of verifying who you are and that what you say is true. We only use material we find in reputable published sources. So, you may choose to (e.g.) tell your story to a reporter at your local newspaper. If they then publish it, we can pick it up here -Arch dude (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Earl of Dumbarton

I have totally stuffed up trying to add the correct pronunciation of this title. Please fix. Sorry. (talk) 21:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello IP user. The formatting error was simple that you inserted a new line after the citation. But I have reverted your change: the pronunciation of the place in Gaelic does not seem to me to be at all relevant to the pronunciation of the title in English. In any case, giving a Gaelic name for the pronunciation is extremely unhelpful to English speakers. I think you possibly meant to give not the pronunciation, but the Gaelic form of the name; but again, unless you can adduce a source that his title in English is the Gaelic form of the name, I don't see how that is relevant. The article on Dumbarton (which is linked) gives the Gaelic name and prnunciation of the place. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

October 18

Jack Brooksbank

Please help with 2 areas of concern - Firstly, there are a lot of red words underneath the refs. on this page. I am unable to fix this up. - Secondly, I have added a file in the info box and it is all wrong Thanks in advance. (talk) 00:05, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to memy contributions) 00:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Usernames that violate BLP

This came up at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion#Binksternet-related trolling.

If someone created a new account with the name User:example's real name is Larson E. Whipsnade and his social security number is 078-05-1120 (See[3]), is it true, as claimed at the MfD above, that nothing can be done and the user name will remain visible forever? Or can oversight/suppression by applied, just as with any other serious BLP violation? --Guy Macon (talk) 08:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: According to Help:RevisionDelete at MediaWiki, it's technically possible to remove usernames from revisions. I don't see any policy-related reasons why usernames that are serious violations of WP:OUTING or WP:BLP wouldn't be removed. TeraTIX 10:36, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
Accounts cannot be (technically) completely deleted, but local oversighters (locally) and stewards (globally) have ability to hide usernames that violates Wikimedia Oversight Policy, which makes it invisible to everyone but stewards, local OSes (if an account exist on their project), and certain number of WMF staffers. — regards, Revi 11:59, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
The username you mentioned is within oversight policy and would be suppressed everywhere it appeared. ~ GB fan 12:27, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

October 19

Jack Brooksbank

I have mucked up badly when trying to make a file on this article smaller. Please fix sorry. (talk) 00:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

No worries; should be fixed now. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:53, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Jack Brooksbank

Sorry - reference 3 should have the publisher in forward slanting italics but NOT (I think) in BOLD. I am too scared to fix this myself. Please help if you can. Thanks (talk) 01:12, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed - See the change made here that fixed it. You just needed to remove three single-quotes on each side of the publisher title to change it from being both bold and italicized to being just italicized. Adding two single-quotes on each side will italicize the text (but not add bold font), three single-quotes adds only bolded font (no italics), and five single-quotes adds both fonts. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:18, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

List of wedding guests of Princess Eugenie and Jack Brooksbank

In the section - "Bridesmaids and page boys" section, I have tried to do the link on Autumn Philips - who has her own page. But, it is in RED. Please help Thanks203.132.68.1 (talk) 02:19, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed, you merely misspelled Autumn. MB 04:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)


Hi, I am a new user(only was autoconfirmed today) and I want to know what should I do when I see vandalism. Can you take a look at this:, one sentence says "PICKLE REE divined..." is this vandalism because I'm pretty sure PICKLE REE does not show up in any of the books.

Thanks --Boothsift (talk) 04:07, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Most articles can be edited by anyone. This means that in most articles, vandalism can be reverted by anyone. This particular instance looked like the simple addition of a couple of words. Some IP kindly removed it. What's more problematic is what to do when you suspect alteration. I could explain, but a full explanation would be laborious for both you and me until you're familiar with the exploration of article history. This isn't hard to understand, once you familiarize yourself with it. Here is a silly fellow. (I always think of such people as male.) I "reverted" his last, stupid edit to an article. What I could have done instead is to use the "history" to see, and then to edit, the version of the article that preceded his silly interference. Attempting to edit an old version brings up a warning message. Ignore the warning message and instead simply click "Publish changes" (of course providing an informative edit summary). If you'd additionally like to make other improvements to the article, go ahead, but the article history will be easier for others to understand if you make these improvements in one or more separate edits. -- Hoary (talk) 04:23, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Stray reference

Hi, on the English Wikipedia page for Globeville, Denver, there is a stray reference at the very bottom of the page, just above the categories. This reference occurs by itself, after the regular references. I cannot fix this because I cannot find the reference anywhere when I edit the page. What is generating this stray reference and how can it be fixed? Thanks and best wishes, Jeffrey Beall (talk) 10:43, 19 October 2018 (UTC).

@Jeffrey Beall: The reference was coming from {{Neighborhoods of Denver}}. I have fixed it there.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 10:59, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

This isn’t a reliable or unbiased source, imo. But its claims about education among GOP and Democrats are a major feature of Republican party. (talk) 19:34, 19 October 2018 (UTC)